Please consider supporting hierachical checklist


#1

i know everdo is not going to support multi-level sub-tasks.
but is it possible to support multi-level checklist?
here is the case which would be useful, first add the following task:

prepare suprise for Mary’s birthday
- prepare one of a gift that she likes:
– IPhone XS MAX
– Macbook Pro
– Samsung S10+
- her favorate birthday cake
- sweet toast on her party

here we will need 3 items of sub-checklist, and we can use 2 of “-” as the second level checklist or even 3 of “-” for further indenting. if everdo can display them as sub-items, then it will be very much helpful.


#2

I will try to prototype and see how it works.


#3

Thanks so much for taking this into consideration!


#4

I would be interested in using this feature as well! I hope it makes it to the production version!


#5

Yes a good feature for me too.


#6

If this nesting is a feasible feature do you think that in the desktop you could support auto create nesting dashes ?

Typing a single dash and space is not too onerous but it would really help if nesting checklists is possible.

(re: Creating task checklist in description could be easier?)


#7

Yes, will try both at the same time.


#8

Until now the product seems promising. I hope that it lives up to the “perfect to-do/GTD app” marketing.

I have tested every product available on the market since 5 years ago. Some of them more than one time. And there is a feature that almost all of them fail, the subproject/subtasks/subfolders (give your prefered name). The only ones that provide it are the non-GTD focused apps, or as honourable exception GTDNext.

And for me it is really a core concept of GTD, as David Allen himself explains that you have to split any task that is not actionable into smaller tasks until you can do it at once.

To say the truth it is the single most common reason for me to fail to acomplish a task. When a task is sitting in my focus list for more than a week I always notice that the reason is that it is too much complex to be solved at once, and for that reason it is always postponed. And most available products on the market limit this feature at most 3 levels.

So, as a new player, I beg your attention to this feature, because I believe it is a competitive advantage over almost all the competition.


#9

The way you describe the issue, it seems like it could be solved by simply splitting the task in question into smaller actions, right?

In general, unlimited-depth project outlining like you see in GTDNext is conceptually too far removed from the current design. In GTD “projects” correspond to “desirable outcomes” and “next actions” correspond to “manageable pieces of work towards an outcome”. According to this model, I believe flat projects make complete sense and outlining at project level is not important enough to pursue (within Everdo). For this approach to work well, it does require to get used to picking the correct scope of the project and to create truly atomic and actionable project actions.


#10

It not need to be unlimited-depth. But must have reasonable amount of levels. I would guess. 6 or 7 at least.

I have personal projects, not power-plant construction, like a one of my house’ room renew that would easily take more than 100 tasks, when properly split. The problem is when a flat list of this tasks is in place it is very dificult to process so much content at one look, it starts to become a nightmare just to look at this list, without being able to assign tasks to subprojects, and I would also like to this project to be part of some long term vision project. So that is the kind of feature that I considered core. To say the truth it is the first thing I test when I run into a new product. And if it fails it is out.

And I see similar requests in many wish lists/foruns of other tools, so I am not the only one with this requirement. But if it is so is conceptually too far removed from the current design, it is good to know it first hand. One less to keep under my radar and to spend time trying.

Thank you for your prompt and kind response


#11

Would be so great to see this done properly in software. I just don’t see a good way it can be done yet, nor have I seen a good reference implementation. Multi-level projects are not the solution here, I believe.

For me this problem is currently solved with a pen+paper flowchart. It’s easy to create, it’s easy to throw away when plans change. It’s easy to create actionable Everdo projects based on such plan.

The way I see it there are two modes in GTD: planning and execution.

Everdo focuses on execution and has few planning features. The user is “supposed to” add short-term goals (aka Projects) and those are manageable as flat lists of tasks. Larger scale plans need to be kept separate and used as a source of projects to add to Everdo.

Project organization in multiple levels is a planning feature - it adds nothing to aid execution, but it adds complexity in a huge way. And it’s insufficient for planning either, unless it also handles dependencies between projects properly and has great visualization of both project structure and dependencies. Would love to see/try to use something like that.

I would really appreciate any pointers to products that do this right in your opinion. In particular it’s very interesting how dependencies between projects and tasks are managed across multiple levels.